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TEOMCROTE = TEOTWAWKI on steroids! The End Of Mankind's Current Reign Over The Earth takes into account that our ancestors were neither suicidal, stupid, nor our genetic inferiors but still wound up getting wiped off the Earth. Whereas CSER [cser.org: Centre for Study of Existential Risk] tries to PREVENT this dispensation from coming to an end, TEOMCROTE works from the eventuality/possibility/probability that the end our age takes place and what to do then

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This is an idea that I had after reading this fllowing from the thread ,offset=10#post455]MOVIES/BOOKS, documentaries, saving information.
I'm just going to copy and paste what I replied to the following quote in that thread:
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Bronvanzin wrote:
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All in all, hardcopy information is also desirable. Actually, i've been thinking of compiling a book of essential data that would consist of laminated pages. That would then be about the bare necessities, thinking of things like:
- how to make iron
- how to make paper
- how to make sodium chlorite and MMS
etc. etc. etc. etc.
On the one hand that may seem redundant, on the other hand we should be prepared for the worst case scenario in which we either lose all of our digital equipment or maybe aren't able to access them for a while. In that case we'll need to be able to access the bare necessities somehow. Many good books can be boiled down to a page or less and just getting all of the good stuff together, maybe enough for everyone to carry their own copy, would be prudent and would also give everyone with their copy a feeling of safety and independence.



You know this is a really good idea, but seems like a lot of work for just one person. This could be termed something like a "Survival Handbook."

I'm surprised that something like this doesn't already exist somewhere on the Internet. And if not, this gave me the idea that what if we, or whoever has the technical know-how, created a website, possibly open-source such as a Wiki, or maybe a membership based website (so evil-doers don't corrupt the it with bogus data) where many people could contribute and the "Survival Handbook" could evolve more quickly and be free to download as a PDF file by anybody.

So I'm just posting this here in this thread to see if we can get any interest in this idea, and maybe find somebody that knows how to start it up by creating a website (I'm not tech savvy in that area myself). Or maybe something like this already exists? But I haven't located it yet if it does. And Survival Handbook might not be the best thing to call it, but that is just what popped in my head at the time. I'm sure we can collectively come up with a better name for it perhaps.


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I've been looking for people to join or get together for this for year since it so obviously DOES appear too much for one or a few people.
The impression i'm getting, however, is that it might in the end be more important what we ourselves are able to put together [though we can of course share it online with the world] and i think it's because, in the end, there won't be many who will wish to see TEOTWAWKI through and opt to join the billions in death.

Perhaps when people REALLY start WORKING ON things that'll be necessary when TEOTWAWKI happens, it dawns on them that it's far beyond the comfort zone and then they quit.

I am a person, and i hope i'm not alone but there apparently aren't many, who doesn't care too much about my own comfort zone. I'm happy if i'm happy and i can enjoy it, but i don't count myself blessed or right or 'doing well' for feeling happy. Sometimes happy just comes later and maybe should come later. For most people, however, it appears that when they truly START with the big changes and see how the unhappiness sets in, they STOP whatever they're doing and set a limit on how far they're willing to think and feel and go.

I imagine this is why there are so little 2012 online intiatives of merrit. Hell, i can name 3 or 4 that are by the same person. And he's an idiot... [i.e. suicidal type that won't allow his mind/heart to accept a possible serious outcome of 2012]. Oh, he can also be a jerk, which is how i came by "idiot". He banished me from [sign in to see URL], for one.

IF i would have been working on such a survival handbook myself, i might actually almost be finished with it by now, but i made a great mistake: thinking "Hey, this is just too much for little ol' me; we (the people) should be doing this together". Hey, i still love the sentiment.
In the end there are some real basics and one or a few people SHOULD be able to put that together:
- woodgas stove comes to mind, for the gas we'd need to heat furnaces with,
- aspects of metal working
- basic chemistry
- basic electronics
- basic battery technology
- the hydraulic rampump [especially on Gomera]

It may then appear "etc. etc. etc.", but actually, after 20 to 30 basics, things might start looking less gloomy.

Another thought: maybe if we start putting something together, start building, and then putting it out already, we might attract other builders or feedback to help with it.

Putting stuff together, though, is tough, too. That's why i'm saving youtube vids on people SHOWING how to do stuff. A picture says a thousand words, a vid says tens of thousands! For this reason, as well, i'm thinking workshops in Morocco. And, frankly, i'd think it'd be a good idea for EVERYONE to attend EVERY workshop possible. Hogging information is one of the main pillars of the sick society we enjoy today and specialization will likely start off the community on a dangerous foot. It would also draw powermongers, which is another reason why i believe everyone should at least have his or her own copy of everything everyone should know.

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as an after thought...

If one were to invest a single day for some basic technology or craft, this would be more or less enough to pass on the basics.
With internet what it is today, including YouTube vids, downloadable ebooks, etc.,, say you were interested in collecting knowledge about how to blow glass, one of the true basic technologies (imagine life without windows! People used to take their windows with them when they moved and build their new house around them...).

Boil it down to a page or less, maybe with some pics, and the next day it could be about how to make a furnace get really hot, well, you get the idea. Is it too much work? It's more about time, i think. Internet makes us all potential experts and maybe we've been offered it's utility in the final days for a reason? Just a thought. I'm not saying it's true, but either way it would be a shame to lose internet and think back on all of the knowledge that MIGHT have been acquired through it.

By the way, i think working that way would solve the next problem: what to look into. It's like i mention, if you look into glass, you're also going to have to look into how to make a furnace, then it's about how to make the gas to heat the furnace with, then it's about compressor technology with which one can collect the gas, then it's about making the metal parts, etc. etc. etc. One leads to another quite naturally, i think.

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Yeah, well as was stated in the initial thread where this thread started from, we all (well at least you and me) are collecting information and saving it ourselves. But obviously, a coordinated effort on a website would greatly improve the efficiency of the concept. We're all probably overlapping the same efforts of each other, where if it was coordinated online we wouldn't all be collecting the same information, we could be collecting only information that was missing and not already covered by someone else. And redundancy of everyone still having their copy of everything is as simple as just updating your personal archive with the latest updated version of the online Handbook.

Obviously, efficiency is the key concept here for as you say, time is running short. The less time we spend on duplicating each others efforts the more time we have for all the other things that need to done for preparedness. Such as possibly taking workshop classes as you say (if those could be organized; that is another challenge in itself).

That is why I made this thread, to see if we could find someone that knows how to start up a Wiki-type website; then we could get it started and spread the word of it, and hopefully more and more people would get involved after it got it's initial "spark." Actually, realistically speaking, this forum doesn't have a very big viewing, and this idea should be posted elsewhere on the Internet as well.

(And honestly, this isn't such a grand "eureka" concept; as you said you been trying to do it for years, and I'm sure there has to be others around the world that may have already gotten this kind of thing going on somewhere already; maybe we just need to search harder for an already existing one (possibly in a foreign language).

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i'll ask Donne...

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Hi guys,

I also have been collecting a pdf and avi and mp3 library on many subjects as well as hard copy books.
Have been looking into the possibility of leasing bandwidth space that could be used as both storage and communication. I like the Wiki type concept for alternative technology and survival information.

As mentioned, its also good to have hard copy of information in case of digital failure. Our local 'Office Works' here in West Australia prints out pdf files and binds them for a reasonable rate. So commercial options elsewhere would exist.

Duplication: Currently researching 'backyard foundry' technology and part way through building my own furnace. Have been collecting relevant foundry books, youtube files etc.

A mate just gave me 70 gig of his library, pdf, avi and mp3 files, more on self development, metaphysics, conspiracy, esoteric etc which complements my own similar collection.

I can look into the cost of 500 gig of resellable BW if interested. A mate has been using joomla programs to create www sites for his clients. It would be possible to create a survival site and forum etc with the programs. We could store relevant files in a library there that we can all add to and dl from.



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A mate of mine makes joomla sites for clients as well :-) At least he did and he made anno70 for me (as well as the newest version of it.

I'm wondering, since this is not the case with wikipedia: do these wiki options allow for downloading other than by saving the page? I.E. downloading pdf's and the like?

Do you have a Paypal account if we'd like to contribute to the wiki/online storage option, Donne?

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[sign in to see URL]
My son told me about this as he uses it for his uni files so
trying an experiment with this atm. Has a free 2 gig storage. 50 gig $10 pm, 100 gig $20.
My login is *********@[sign in to see URL] and password '**************'.
Have uploaded files from [sign in to see URL].
See if you can login in and up and download files in public files folder.

If worthwhile, we could each have a dropbox, giving extra shared file space.
 
"Dropbox shared folders let you share or collaborate on a set of files. When someone joins a shared folder, the folder appears inside their Dropbox, and syncs to their computers automatically. Learn more.



I edited this post because i deemed it too hazardous to have login and password open to the world at large.
Donne has shown his willingness to share and login and password are available to anybody who's serious about contributing.
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Marcin Jakubowski is working on 50 open source hardware models that will allow anyone with moderate income and understanding to build and maintainence their own farming tools.
]introductory vid
He's talking about a dvd which would contain all one needs for rebooting civilization.

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