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TEOMCROTE = TEOTWAWKI on steroids! The End Of Mankind's Current Reign Over The Earth takes into account that our ancestors were neither suicidal, stupid, nor our genetic inferiors but still wound up getting wiped off the Earth. Whereas CSER [cser.org: Centre for Study of Existential Risk] tries to PREVENT this dispensation from coming to an end, TEOMCROTE works from the eventuality/possibility/probability that the end our age takes place and what to do then

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Val informed me that the Gulf Stream has stopped. I guess we can all go watch The Day After Tomorrow to get a feel of what THAT might lead to... emoticon

This would appear to have been an accident waiting to happen, of course. The Gulf Stream gets kick-started by polar ice melting; no polar ice, no Gulf Stream. Polar ice has been melting away rapidly, many routes have been laid bare that've been closed for centuries at least, but it appears that because much of the ice returns after summer, people don't worry too much; but if during enough summers the drag of melting ice (falling, sweet water dragging cold down with it) gets to be low enough, maybe it doesn't have to stop completely for things to fall to pieces. "Kick-start" then seems the appropriate metaphor, followed by "purring of engine" vs "engine back-firing" or something [i'm no mechanic].

Interesting? For myself, after years of reading into the theories of what might happen, what DOES actually happen isn't of too much interest. SOMETHING was likely going to happen; what that something is, is of lesser concern than my preparations to surthrive that something.
Reading about such things might push some people over the edge of procrastination into the depths of change, though i'm sure billions will never get to that point at all and are heading towards mass suicide.

I posted an article on the importance of the great ocean currents in The Next Ice Age and Our Commitments to Goods and Evils.
Of course Ivan Stein has been predicting an ice age occuring soon, as well.

I've been reading about such things for years, as i mentioned, and i forget details sometimes, there's been so much research i've looked into. I'm sure many people feel the same way. The difference between me and "many people" is perhaps that the fact that all of the pieces of the puzzle can be disconcertingly puzzling doesn't bring me to a point of thinking "Ah well, since i'll never really get a grasp on what's going on, i think i'll just wait and see". The Jews that DID escape Nazi Germany read the writings on the wall and got the hell out in time. The ones waiting for 'proof', they just died.

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All this is really making me think.
I am very concerned that the Gulf stream has stopped and that our climate has been irreversibly changed.
I don't hold out much hope for western Europe and I'm feeling a real sense of urgency.
I have been very upset today as I tried to discuss this wth some of my extended family and was mocked and put down for being a conspiracy theorist and told I was basically full of !@#$. Sometimes the people you love are the ones that let you down the worst emoticon

I will get over today and work faster towards my goals.

I love the people in this group - because I know I am in the company of like minds.

Love to you all

Val xxx
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well, shouldn't be so 'irreversibly' if common sense and Paul LaViolette prevail; according to his research [read Earth Under Fire, one of the basics for understanding 2012] this all happens every 13,000 years [though every 26,000 is apparently a little different].

Common sense, as well, would suggest that little ol' humans aren't that bloody important [i.e. hubris] and that just because we happened along at this time doesn't mean squat on a cosmic or even planetary scale; to suggest that after 4 billion years of Earth and at least hundreds of millions of years of life evolving more or less evenly [research shows that the number of blue whales has remained steady for many millions of years, for instance], it would be a coincidence of cosmic magnitude for things to go so wrong now. Why? Because of us?!

Human history only goes back a few thousand years for a good reason and i don't think it was only Noah's Flood [though that is one explanation, i'll be honest]; since our conception some 75,000 years ago, civilization has had to be (re)introduced a number of times, as archaeological data shows, the last great intervention having occured with the Sumerians. Surface life is rough. The cosmos is NOT a quiet place and LaViolette argues that Saturn's rings, for instance, were likely created only so many thousand years ago, while rings around other planets [some remnants thereof still to be found, if you didn't know] already disappeared. His argument suggests that after 2013 there will be more rings around more planets, just as Saturn's rings are changing as we speak. That, btw, is again something of a cosmic coincidence UNLESS it's a common occurance (which it apparently is).

Mankind, the planet, and other lifeforms will survive the T-Tauri stage of our Sun again. I'm more worried about the white Sun in our sky. This Sun, according to LaViolette, will turn red for a while, it's rays being blocked/transformed by cosmic debris before they reach us. The good news: plants like cacti and pineapple actually convert the infrared energy of a red Sun into their energy; that's how they survive desert heat to begin with. Getting crops of these going is a good preparation for 2012; the better news: the island is full of cacti already and the neigboring island has pineapple crops. emoticon

[Again, to be honest, a pineapple takes 3 years to mature; still, better late than never and maybe it'll be 2 years with all the extra energy coming their way... emoticon ]

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The Gulf Stream and the Next Ice Age, 51 minute documentary


The Gulf Stream and the Next Ice Age, 51 minute documentary
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